Back when vintage mouthpieces were affordable on Ebay, I had bought quite a few. I bought enough so that I began to see the same mouthpieces over and over. Not exactly the same mouthpiece, because they often had different brand names embossed on them. But sufficiently similar such that I thought the same maker was involved. Many of the mouthpieces, despite the brand name, had "France" lightly stamped on them. Even some well-known U.S. brands had these stamps. In looking at possible French manufacturers, one name kept coming up. Riffault et Fils.
The history that I could find was sketchy, surprisingly sketchy given how often suspected Riffault et Fils mouthpieces appeared on Ebay. I was a little surprised that I couldn't find more information, but I now realize that that is, in part, because of the Riffault et Fils business model. Riffault was perfectly happy making "unbranded" mouthpieces for others, both saxophone and clarinet manufacturers, wholesale businesses, and mouthpiece finishing houses.
We have seen a similar business model in JJ Babbitt, the U.S. fabricator who supplied mouthpieces to both saxophone makers (like Buescher) and finishing houses (like Dukoff). Finding a mouthpiece with the name Babbitt stamped on it is not common. The same is true with finding a mouthpiece stamped Riffault. You can find them, but it is much more common to find Riffault and Babbitt mouthpieces embossed with another name, or even with no name.
In trying to track down information on Riffault et Fils, I consulted old trade publications and various websites like the French equivalent of Ancestry.com. Once I got close, I contacted past distributors of Riffault mouthpieces and even the mayor and chamber of commerce in locations where I suspected Riffault et Fils had fabricated mouthpieces in the 1950's. As you might suspect, not everyone shares an interest in what happened to an out-of-business mouthpiece company that started in 1928.
I located an old address for the last company director of Riffault et Fils, Mr. Jacques Mimault. I put the address in to Google Earth and did a "cyber drive by" at that location. I found a door with the address above and a little bronze plaque next to the door.
MANUFACTURE
BECS DU CLARINETTES
ET SAXOPHONES
M. RIFFAULT
Bingo. You can click on the link above to see the actual plaque on Google Earth. (Sorry, the link is broken and I haven't had time to fix it).
At this point, I needed local help (and the ability to speak French, which I don't have). I contacted a friend in Paris who is a journalist for French Public Radio. When he calls people and asks questions, he tends to get a much better response than I do. He spoke with a person at the local chamber of commerce who said that she would look into it and see if visiting the site was possible. She found that the factory site still had somebody living in the adjacent apartment; Madame Bernadette Mimault. Bingo again.
With just an address in hand, I left for France and first spent several days in Paris. While there, I also visited Selmer and Vandoren and asked if they had any information on Riffault et Fils. As it turned out, Vandoren knew of somebody that might have information and agreed to email him with my query. Several days later, a Vandoren employee responded and said that he had worked for a French clarinet publication and had spoken with somebody from Riffault years ago. He gave me the same contact information for Bernadette Mimault and said that she was Maurice Riffault's daughter!!! My third bingo in a row.
I had my friend arrange a meeting with Madame Mimault for me and my wife (who speaks French). As we walked towards her door, a man came out of a side door of what I suspected was the old Riffault factory and walked along with us, saying that Bernadette was expecting us. It turns out it was her husband, Jacques Mimault, the last CEO for Riffault et Fils.
Bernadette worked at Riffault et Fils from 1953 until the company was sold in 2001. She and Jacques were married in 1957 and he came to work for Riffault and Fils. Although the company name is Riffault et "Fils" ("sons"), it turns out that Maurice Riffault had only one son (Jean, then vacationing in Corsica) and one son-in-law (Jacques). But Riffault and Sons has a nice ring.
Maurice Urbain Riffault was born on May 8th, 1904 in Mehun-sur-Yèvre, France. As a young man, he was an industrial designer working in Paris and involved in the design and fabrication of precision machines. Neither Jacques or Bernadette were certain as to exactly what type of machinery, but it was apparently similar to that used to machine a precision facing on a mouthpiece. Here is a patent design for facing woodwind mouthpieces by a fellow Frenchman, Eugene Bercioux.
The above machine was patented in the U.S. after Mr. Bercioux acquired Woodwind Co. N.Y., but apparently it was not patented in France. It does not appear that Maurice Riffault ever patented the machinery that he used.
Maurice moved from Paris back to Mehun-sur-Yèvre to start his business in 1928. He married in 1930. As the business grew, he ended up in a three story facility on the Canal du Berry, a canal that is no longer used for commercial traffic, but still has some larger warehouses along the banks.
Despite the facility having approximately 3,000 square feet and an open courtyard in the rear, no vulcanization of ebonite mouthpieces was done on site. Maurice Riffault designed the molds that were used (and those changed some over the years), but the vulcanization was done off site. It seems that the expenditure in vulcanization equipment, and the amount of space that the equipment would take up when not in use, made on-site vulcanization impractical. That aspect was subcontracted out to a manufacturer that was engaged in the vulcanization of ebonite items full time.
Madame Mimault was primarily involved in the secretarial aspect of the business (with occasional polishing and packaging). She kept track of inventory and ordered more blanks when needed. She said that she didn't speak English, but she could read and write some in English. She explained that part of her job was to translate incoming orders and respond (often in English). But she rarely heard English actually spoken. She knew that a French speaker reading English out loud isn't speaking English. I have learned the same thing in that when I read something in French out loud, it isn't intelligible to a French speaker. Fortunately, my wife was there to translate. In subsequent emails from Bernadette, it's a little French and a little English, but it works.
Jacques Mimault was an electrical engineer working for British Petroleum and specializing in automation prior to their marriage in 1957. He quickly came to work for Maurice Riffault and they moved into the facility shown above in 1958. He became the "general manager" of Riffault, which he told me meant that he actually did everything from time to time. Maurice Riffault remained the sole owner until 1980, at which time the business became Riffault et Fils. Maurice died in 1988.
Both Jacques and Bernadette said that Maurice was very reluctant to put the Riffault brand name on mouthpieces. Several times, Maurice and Jacques attended the largest annual European music trade fair (in Frankfort, Germany) not as vendors, but simply to meet with those vendors who would need mouthpieces for their woodwinds. Later, they finally acquired a booth and attended trade fairs as a vendor (with Madame Bénard, who was the supplier of caps and ligatures used by Riffault). (More on Hérouard et Bérnard in this blog.) So it was just about 50 years after starting the business that Maurice Riffault became receptive to the idea of a Riffault branded mouthpiece and even Riffault reeds.*
The reed business was short-lived and Jacques thought that most of them went to Japan, then a new market for Riffault.


By 1991, Riffault had partnered with Jupiter Band Instruments in the U.S. to distribute their reeds and mouthpieces. Riffault had a unique packaging for both reeds and mouthpieces that looked like giant cold relief capsules. Below is a picture from the Saxophone Journal (I have never seen the actual packaging). It appears that they were supposed to look "medicinal." Mr. Ireland, President of Jupiter, stated "we packaged the samples so that they would stay protected plus get the message across that Riffault is a prescription for remedying clarinet or saxophone tone problems."
Riffault's mouthpieces were all the "Superfini," and Mr. Ireland stated "the mouthpiece hand finishing is also unique in that the chamber, side, and tip rails are polished leaving no tool marks after the boring and facing process is completed."
Although the majority of mouthpieces produced by Riffault et Fils over the years went out the door unbranded, Riffault was well aware of who would be the end user. In some cases, they actually marked the pieces for the end user. Two of Madame Mimault's favorite customers were Leon Leblanc (Noblet mouthpieces) and Vito Pascucci (Vito, Melodia, etc. mouthpieces). She described them as "bon amis" and seemed to have found her meetings with them especially entertaining.
Because of Riffault et Fils location close to the towns of La Couture-Boussey and Mantes-la-Jolie (the traditional center of French woodwind production), Riffault produced mouthpieces for many of the "local" companies. If you know anything about woodwinds, you will likely recognize some of the local family names from this area: Marigaux, Leblanc, Strasser, Malerne, Noblet, Thibouville, Chédeville, etc. Charles Chédeville had a shop making woodwind pads and reeds on Rue Leblanc in La Couture-Boussey. Small world back then.
Because of Riffault et Fils location close to the towns of La Couture-Boussey and Mantes-la-Jolie (the traditional center of French woodwind production), Riffault produced mouthpieces for many of the "local" companies. If you know anything about woodwinds, you will likely recognize some of the local family names from this area: Marigaux, Leblanc, Strasser, Malerne, Noblet, Thibouville, Chédeville, etc. Charles Chédeville had a shop making woodwind pads and reeds on Rue Leblanc in La Couture-Boussey. Small world back then.

Bernadette also ran through some foreign businesses she remembered Riffault selling mouthpieces to: Ideal, NEMC, Coast, Frank Kaspar, Charles Bay, and Yanagisawa. The first two are trade names that were distributed by large U.S. wholesalers. Other customers may have been before her time or the names that ended up imprinted on the mouthpieces were never revealed to her. She told me that Riffault never sold just blanks (what she called "becs brute"). All mouthpieces would be both polished and faced prior to being sent out. Of course, that does not preclude a secondary seller from later putting their own proprietary facing on it and embossing their own name. We have seen this with Dukoff using Babbitt blanks and maybe Otto Link using Goldbeck blanks. The same thing routinely happened with Riffault blanks.
Riffault produced thousands of mouthpieces a year and generally had 10-12 workers at any one time.
Jacques said that neither he, Bernadette, Jean, or Maurice could really play a clarinet or saxophone beyond simple scales, but they had no trouble in finding players who were perfectly willing to vigorously test mouthpieces and give comments. He said that saxophone players from Bourges often showed up at the door, as well as members the Garde Républicaine and other French military bands (of which there are many).
Jacques told a story of a player who purchased a mouthpiece and then returned to have it adjusted. When he came back the third time for an adjustment, Bernadettes' brother, Jean, took the mouthpiece upstairs where it was examined and everybody agreed that it was perfect. It was returned to the player unchanged and he was thrilled with the improvement to the piece. I think that most mouthpiece facers can identify with this story. Jacques said that, although they sometimes sold directly to individual musicians from their facility, they preferred not to do so for just this reason. But he also told me that both he and Maurice had altered some designs and facings based on feedback from musicians.
Jacques has always been interested in music and was active in starting a music school in town. The school is for adults and children and presently has 150 students. He was also the adjunct mayor of Mehun-sur-Yèvre for a time and was active in a "sister city" program with a similar sized German town.
Bernadette explained to me some of the differences about the Riffault pieces over the years. The "bulb shank" pieces were the first to be designed by Maurice. Here is an example of one version from new old stock.
Many of the earliest "bulb shank" mouthpieces can be recognized by having three ligature rings, like the one below. Of course, just having three ligature lines on a saxophone mouthpiece doesn't guarantee that it is a Riffault, but it was common enough to make it more probable than not.
The above mouthpiece has no logo or brand name of any type. It is stamped "Steelite Ebonite" and has a facing curve designation of R7. An R7 Riffault alto facing is 2.05 mm or .080" and was Riffault's largest "in-house" tip opening for alto. Here is recent advertising copy for Riffault mouthpieces showing the facing numbers.
Yes, I was surprised to learn that Riffault mouthpieces are still in production (sort of). In 2001, Riffault was sold to their long-time business associate, Hérouard & Bérnard, the company that fabricated ligatures and mouthpiece caps for Riffault mouthpieces for decades.
When I subsequently visited H&B, they were continuing the Riffault tradition in that they were filling a contract for clarinet mouthpieces for a well known French woodwind manufacturer. The mouthpieces would not carry the Riffault name, but would carry on the Riffault tradition. More on that visit in another blog.
I spoke with Mr. and Mrs. Mimault about Riffault history for over an hour. Although a French clarinet magazine (now out of print and I haven't located a copy) had interviewed them years ago, they were surprised that anyone was still interested. They asked me if I was intending to start a mouthpiece business (no thanks). I, on the other hand, was surprised that they did not have any pictures of the Riffault facility when it was fully operational. Bernadette remembered a German company had visited and taken pictures, but she never saw the pictures. She said that the fabrication facility was empty except for junk, as all equipment and tools had been sold to Hérouard & Bérnard. H&B had sent workers to the Riffault facility to be trained and, later, Jacque had gone to H&B to help set up and train H&B employees in the art of mouthpiece finishing. But, as we have seen, that was not the end of Riffault et Fils.
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I'm going to write a Part 2 to go over the various Riffault saxophone mouthpieces. I'm not going to go into much detail about Riffault clarinet mouthpieces. My experience is that a clarinet mouthpiece is a clarinet mouthpiece. I know, clarinet players will disagree. Riffault sold clarinet mouthpieces to clarinet makers, like Buffett, SML, and Leblanc, and mouthpieces that were unmarked and later finished by Chedeville, Bay, Kaspar, etc. It drives clarinet players crazy to hear this. They (as with saxophone players) prefer to fantasize about special ebonite recipes, unique molds that have disappeared, and secret histories lost in the mists of time, all based only on what a business stamped on their mouthpiece.
As to clarinet mouthpieces, the three ligature rings often appearing on a Riffault saxophone piece show up as three rings lower on a Riffault clarinet piece. That's one way to tell. Of course, like the saxophone mouthpieces, some Riffault pieces shipped to customers without any ligature lines and even without the country of origin label. But I'll explain that in Part 2. Here are some Riffault clarinet pieces.




P.S. While I was in Paris, I just happened by a music store that had a good selection of saxophones. The elderly clerk asked if he could help me and, just for jollies, I asked if they might have any old ebonite saxophone mouthpieces. He pulled out a vintage SML tenor mouthpiece. Aha, the mouthpiece was clearly a Riffault et Fils product. Maybe the clerk might have some knowledge about Riffault et Fils! I asked him if he was familiar with the mouthpiece company Riffault. He said that Riffault mouthpieces were "pas de bon becs" and I would be much happier with the SML. Even if I spoke sufficient French, it's not worth the effort to explain to him that the vintage SML he was holding is a Riffault mouthpiece with a standard Riffault "R" facing. SML made saxophones, not mouthpieces. It is very likely that Riffault et Fils was completely responsible for the finishing of this mouthpiece, even the stamp.


* I read in an old publication in which the JJ Babbitt Company stated that it wasn't until the 1960's that they first put the Babbitt name on one of their own mouthpieces (after the death of founder Jesse Babbitt). Apparently Jesse Babbitt had the same misgivings as Maurice Riffault. Why directly compete with those businesses to which you are wholesale marketing your mouthpieces? Let others worry about fancy packaging and distribution issues. In my 1965 issue of The Purchaser's Guide to the Music Industries, Babbitt lists themselves as having mouthpiece models called the Babbitt Supreme and the J.J. Babbitt. I own a Babbitt Artist and I have seen a few Babbitt Supremes, but I can't think of any other Babbitt branded mouthpieces. As with Riffault, there are thousands of Babbitt mouthpieces out there, but relatively few actually marked Babbitt.
(just a note to get my google address linked here.)
ReplyDeleteI just ID'd a bari sax mic for a fellow Facebooker. It was marked "Tru-Lay," a trade name used by Buescher, but was actually a Riffault R3.
Saxophone manufacturers were certainly not wedded to any particular mouthpiece manufacturer. And mouthpiece manufacturers didn't care what you stamped on the piece once purchased. They also didn't care whether or not you modified the piece.
DeleteI own one Riffault R4 soprano sax mouthpiece.. Stamped as Riffault, France.. It came with my Jupiter Soprano Sax.. Bought it 2nd hand.. Just found out that this mouthpiece is vintage..
ReplyDeleteJupiter used Riffault mouthpieces starting in the 1980's when Jupiter was a new company. Riffault et Fils started putting the Riffault own name on their mouthpieces at about the same time (I don't think that I have ever seen a mouthpiece stamped Jupiter). Your mouthpiece would not be considered vintage by most people's standards. Not that that is necessarily bad, but for a company that started in 1923, the 1980's isn't their vintage stuff.
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